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Still support donald trump, they're normalizing this behavior and just because we saw it 19 months ago and we still see it today, that does not make it right. >> plenty of republicans may not like his behavior and have spoken out against it but believe in the agenda and want to see the agenda moving forward. >> we're not even clear on what the agenda is and he's, by the way, never been a conservative. he's never truly been a republican. all of those are facts. and what you're saying is right, people may disagree, but it's also not a revelation. we know people are going to view him, view facts,...

People may disagree, but it's also not a revelation. we know people are going to view him, view facts, view circumstances through the prism of their own beliefs or own bias. that doesn't change. it doesn't stop other people like jim clapper who has such long experience to be able to make a judgment about a president. >> when we come back, we touched on it a second ago, a white house back flip almost as high as the big beautiful wall, the president is reversing himself on who is going to pay for that big, beautiful wall. >> build that wall! build that wall! let's see, there are the wildcats 'ti...