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>> well, look at it in perspective. the president committed $5.7 billion for a wall, okay, but we did 12 and $16 billion just with a pen stroke. that's perspective. >> well, how about this? an interesting column recently said look, everyone, international market, international observer, chinese themselves, farmers thought this isn't going to get that bad, right? they're sort of dancing around each other. there will be a little tete-a-tete, and railed against nafta and signed a thing that didn't look that different than nafta and everyone gets to go home. at a certain point, it really starts to...

In. >> well, look at it in perspective. the president committed $5.7 billion for a wall, okay, but we did 12 and $16 billion just with a pen stroke. that's perspective. >> well, how about this? an interesting column recently said look, everyone, international market, international observer, chinese themselves, farmers thought this isn't going to get that bad, right? they're sort of dancing around each other. there will be a little tete-a-tete, and railed against nafta and signed a thing that didn't look that different than nafta and everyone gets to go home. at a certain point, it really start...