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Ratings so your corporate sponsors will have more money, but that's not media, that's not reportage. it's just fake news. >> i'm going to nor the insults because i don't think it gets it anywhere. >> is not about you it's about actually having journalism back on tv. let's let the viewers judge to decide that you are now 13 to place and national ratings behind nick at night which is on at 11. >> sean: by the way, they are losing to yogi bear reruns. here's another exchange that he had with our former colleague allison cammarata who now works at cnn, this is tough to watch, take a look. >> the a...

But that's not media, that's not reportage. it's just fake news. >> i'm going to nor the insults because i don't think it gets it anywhere. >> is not about you it's about actually having journalism back on tv. let's let the viewers judge to decide that you are now 13 to place and national ratings behind nick at night which is on at 11. >> sean: by the way, they are losing to yogi bear reruns. here's another exchange that he had with our former colleague allison cammarata who now works at cnn, this is tough to watch, take a look.. >> the amount of time you spend a desperation on a topic that ha...

Jared kushner, paul manafort, don jr., carter page, j.d. gordon, none of them adequately disclosed their meetings with russians until the press found out about it. what's going on? >> nothing. you heard their statements. you heard don jr.'s statements that told you everything you need to know. he's not even a member of the administration. this is the shocking thing. again, the amount of time you spend in desperation on a topic that has plummeted you to 13th place in viewership ranking across america. more people watch nick at night cartoons than cnn today. >> our ratings are doing just fine. i...