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And is he very vin particularrive. i think this person is trying to protect themselves and probably their families and other people around them. we have the person who is the most powerful man potentially in the world. and so i think you have to be concerned about that. ed: let me give lawrence in here. jason, freptiondly see each other in d.c. all the time. i gave him two cracks at it and i didn't really hear an answer. >> what we're getting at is we are dealing with a party, a media that are gossip girls. these are allegations that normally come back as false. the democrats have flipped on e...

Ukraine and southeastern ukraine anyway. >> how do you know that, colonel? how do you know that? because ambassador in london said flat out they weren't going to do it. i look at it as if i am putin i'm putting my guys if you do anything to us then we will move. but right now we will keep them there. that's what i think is in play here. >> bill, you are wrong. >> i have been wrong a lot. tell me how you are so thoroughly convinceed i know the russians and i understand putin unlike most people in this administration. he believes that ukraine is incident at the gradual part of russia. three, he ...