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Firing of shinseki. why not? what are you waiting for? 40 veterans died. maybe 80. we don't know what the scandal will look like. start to peel back the onion and look. the only way to do it is by removing him and maybe getting someone from the outside and looks in and says, look what i found. that's usually how these things start to really open up when you bring someone in not part of the chain of command. break it up a little bit. >> the only concern he i have with vin sec ki stepping down is it doesn't fix the larger problem but then the pressure is off. with shinseki the pressure is on, we...

Firing of shinseki. why not? what are you waiting for? 40 veterans died. maybe 80. we don't know what the scandal will look like. start to peel back the onion and look. the only way to do it is by removing him and maybe getting someone from the outside and looks in and says, look what i found. that's usually how these things start to really open up when you bring someone in not part of the chain of command. break it up a little bit. >> the only concern he i have with vin sec ki stepping down is it doesn't fix the larger problem but then the pressure is off. with shinseki the pressure is on, we...