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That's it. and to ben's point, you're not vindicated because it doesn't have a vindication section. there's nothing in the indictment that says, andrea, by the way, we've looked at everything you've done in your entire life and concluded you're a wonderful person, go forth and prosper. that's not how indictments work. it's a classic non sequitur. >> what does it tell us, to both of you, about the way mueller op operates? avied from t aside from the secrecy. >> let's start with the secrecy. this is a town where it is hard to keep things secret. this is an operation that has worked with astonish...

>> the notion, chris, this vindicates him is crazy. and here's why. i mean it's just an indictment. and indictments only charge people. if you look to the section here, there's an introduction, there's what's called a manner and means. there's no vindication section in this indictment. we're going to take a break now. right now president trump is visiti visiting broward hospital. let's see if he speaks to reporters in that corridor. >> the doctor was amazing. we saw numerous people and incredible recovery. incredible. and first responders, everybody, the job they've done is incredible and i ...

Guess what section doesn't appear? the vindication section. there is nothing in this indictment that vindicates anybody. indictments don't vindicate people. indictments charge people with crimes. in this case, russian officials and russian organizations. so the notion that you would read this thing and claim vindication strikes me as silly, crazy. >> let me ask you a follow-up question on that. we know from reporting that donald trump doesn't get briefed in person about russia, that it's all delivered in writing because it agitates him. makes him angry. we know from subsequent reporting that h...

That our government is doing that we don't know about to sort of get back at the russian information warfare detailed in this indictment. but to your point, there are sections in this indictment -- and i think everyone should read it -- about the ways, manners, means of the conspiracy. there is a section about the objects of the conspiracy. guess what section doesn't appear? the vindication section. there is nothing in this indictment that vindicates anybody. indictments don't vindicate people. indictments charge people with crimes. in this case, russian officials and russian organizations. so...