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The ukraine. >> it seems clear he is incredibly concerned about ukraine in the past. i don't know about his concern with american policy, but his mission was to make sure the ukraine got those weapons. we all have an affinity to our homeland where we came from. >> here we have a u.s. national security official who is advising ukraine while working inside the white house apparently against the president's interest and usually they've spoken english. isn't that kind of an interesting angle on this story? >> i find that astounding and some might call it espionage. joining me now, jeff bennett. po...