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To me and i believe that the department of justice was correct in raising this as a civil rights violation system wide in the police department and in municipal courts in ferguson. so i believe that this is something that needs to be -- has been identified as a major problem and now a corrective action needs to take place. >> do you wonder general, if we went to police department anywhere u.s.a. if we would find a similar finding? >> i would hope not quite honestly. we obviously made significant progress in race relations since selma, and there are a number of -- i don't want us to paint with ...

I think that sent a very powerful message to have him there as well. >> general, with regard to ferguson, we've all seen the data. i want to put it up on the screen for the cnn audience if we might, how 67% of ferguson is comprised of african-americans yet 85% who are pulled over for car stops are african-american, 93% arrested are african-american. another data set, 95% of those african-americans who have a citation are charged with walking in the roadway. 94% of those charged with a failure to comply are african-american. here's my question for you, is there any benign, nondiscriminatory exp...

Follows along the recommendations in the report not all inclusive but the recommendations are all inclusive in the report, 52 of them. and our legislation would do a lot of things like requiring mine certifications to be certified by the state. there is no reason you have to go hand in hand to the state seeking su subpoena power to do the investigation. the company over the years of able to game the system. allow them to keep off the pattern of violation system. >> all you have to do is challenge it and it goes away for awhile. >> ort fine it reduced to nothing. >> we hope that something does ...