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Bannon who both just refused to show up to testify, why not just show up and plead the fifth? >> right. that may be what they end up doing because they know perhaps that if they -- they don't want to perjure themselves under oath, right? that's what they are trying to do. they want to avoid having to lie or having to admit that they had a hand in trying to overthrow democracy and had a hand in allowing what happened on january 6th to happen. so we'll see what happened with roger stone. we'll see what happens with mark meadows. but these people really love this country, if they were true patrio...

Factors really sort of back fired on them and i don't know how sympathetic she became. when you cry every time you're asked any significant question of substance, i think it gets old with the jury, and again, i think it shows a sort of lack of control, a lack of precision. also, again, that discrepancy that the prosecution exposed in her testimony, they are now titled to include that she was untruthful in key aspects of her testimony. that could be really damaging. >> we will continue to watch. the defense rested in the trial of former police officer kim potter. elie, alexis, really great to h...

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