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Messaging, we leave that to the them. >> rick: the inquiry, according to the reporting of "the wall street journal" ," the grand jury has been impaneled in d.c., it may last for months. they can subpoena records, call witnesses to testify. could this last until 2018? >> it very well could. we don't know if there any particular targets in this investigation. the grand jury is an investigative tool, so those records that they subpoena, the interviews, that's the beginning of the process. >> rick: the president has suggested that he is not a target, but we can't really know that, can we? >> we ca...

A lot of these senate investigations particularly in the television world are doing their own to gain and sleuthing, their reading reports and things gathered by the executive branch, fbi, cia. elizabeth: the president on many occasions hazards for the investigation to move prickly. i read some of your reporting where basically, if i'm not mistaken, federal prosecutors are. >> yes, michael flynn the formal national security advisor, his business associates have received the subpoenas from the grand federal jury in virginia looking for records about his business dealings with turkey. remember, ...

Sentence. a winning message for a nation and by the way, in all fairness, they didn't know it existed. until the day after the election. as i sit around, 9:00 at night, when we all saw virginia looking close, whoa. what's going on? looks like a new country is voting here. they are still playing in old country. >> yeah, absolutely. like they didn't get the message in 2008. i think a lot of people thought the message in 2008 was a fluke. >> did you worry that it was? >> actually, no. i thought barack obama was is going to win, to be honest with you. i didn't. if you look at trajectory of the min...

The grio and david corn is washington bureau chief for mother joans. both are msnbc political analysts. and glad for that. let's talk a like at michael, a pretty smart guy used to write speeches for "w." the self-diagnosis is going on. we'll see what's going on. he wrote today, quote, the republican nominee mitt romney lost by 5 million votes to a beatable incumbent presiding over an anemic economy. the explanation is not purely technical or personalality oriented at the national level. republicans have a winning message for a nation that no longer exists. you got to start with this, joy. it's...

For mitt romney and i need a campaign song." so i'm thinking campaign song. i was having a hard time finding words that rhyme with obama, you run out of those really quick so i had a ♪ i came to virginia looking for a date ♪ ♪ we kissed and i said it's a hell of a state ♪ ♪ we made love and it wasn't so great ♪ ♪ forward and away we go i'm not sure what that has to do with the election, but. >> you notice he was able to include a nice nod there to virginia, one of the all-important swing states. up next, obama derangement syndrome, we're seeing more crazy right wing nuts out ther...