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To do better the next time, and there will be a next time there is a pandemic. i think that is not a person on the planet who has experienced the last two years and would disagree with that, but where it starts to become tricky is what goes in that international agreement? will it be a convention, will it be a treaty, will it be legally binding? will it get the who more powers to fly it scientists into a country where there is a new virus emerging? even if the government of that country doesn't want it, will it force pharmaceutical companies to waive their patents when there is a global health...

Research, sars—cov—2 research, has been put under a national committee. of course, it is difficult to know exactly who knows what and controls what, but it is clear that there is a chain of command there but, having said that, it was a good group of scientists. i think there is a question of why do we need to know this and how do we move forward? politically, there are huge ramifications for the consequences. but i'm less interested in that and more interested in scientifically preventing something of this happening again. if there was a lab leak, how do we have better more safety? if it w...

Politically, there are huge ramifications for the consequences. i'm less interested in that and more interested in preventing scientifically something of this happening again. if there was a laboratory leak, how do we have better procedures? if it was a natural origin, we have to look at where it was, was it farming? was it keeping animals close together? how do we regulate that so we don't have the next virus emerging? the who has toughened its stance on china, again calling for the country to share crucial data from some of the earliest suspected cases of covid. and it's been more explicit a...

As you say, all sars research has been put under national committee. of course, it's difficult to know exactly who knows what and controls what, but it's clear that there is a chain of command there. but having said that, it was a good group of scientists. i think there's a question of why do we need to know this and how do we move forward? so i think, politically, obviously there are huge ramifications for the consequences. but, actually, i'm less interested in that and more in scientifically preventing something like this happening again. and we have to know — if it was a lab leak, how do ...

I think there's a question of why do we need to know this and how do we move forward? so i think, politically, obviously there are huge ramifications for the consequences. but, actually, i'm less interested in that and more in scientifically preventing something like this happening again. and we have to know — if it was a lab leak, how do we have better lab procedures? more safety? if it was a natural origin, then we have to look at where it was — was it wet market, farming? was it keeping many animals close together? how do we regulate that so we don't have the next virus emerging? the wh...