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I want to play dr. fauci's reaction to the great barrington declaration and the justification for spiking the warnings that you all were offering. watch. >> the great barrington declaration, in there is the implication, let everybody get infected that's going to be able to get infected and then we'll have herd immunity. quite frankly that is nonsense and anybody who knows anything about epidemiology will tell you that that is nonsense and very dangerous. >> raymond: doctor, your reaction when you hear that and how the dr. fauci and the biden administration fall into their own media trap here. ...

To play anthony fauci, his reaction to the great barrington declaration and the justification for spike e, the warnings that you all were offering. watcl wereh the great barringtoo declaration. and there is the implicationfect let everybody get infected that's going to be able to be getting infectedg to and then we'll have herd immunity. quite frankly, thaimmut is. and anybody who knows anything about epidemiology will tell you that that is nonsense and very dangerous. >> dr. bhattacharya, your reaction when you hear that? and how did anthony fauci and the biden administration fallu hearhat th...

Because of the behavior and the attitude toward the pandemic has changed, so has the funding. we have to urge congress to say you can't fight cut funding, this is a war with this virus. and it is killing americans. when we go to politicians and say that we need funding for antivirals and we need funding for vaccines and we need funding to help put these clinics into the most vulnerable communities, where the mobile vans have now disappeared. when you turn your back on that funding and you say let the virus rip, it will target the most vulnerable communities and those are citizens that deserve ...

>> laura: notice the semantics game that fauci tries to play. even if he didn't send the email he didn't disavow it. he didn't object to has collins was saying. instead he sent an email with a link bolstering collins' attack on a group of highly respected epidemiologists. one of those joins me now. he's been in the crying room ever since he heard about this fauci attack on the great barrington declaration that he signed. doctor, your reaction to fauci's semantic game and, actually, the really important issue of what he tried to do to all of you? >> well, the thing is he called us fringe epidem...

As this headline notes, quote, australia has decided to let covid rip. is that a good idea? i want to in dr. bernard ashby, a miami cardiologist and florida state lead for the committee to protect health care. so doctor, let's start there. the story notes while cases are surging in australia, officials are holding the line. they're allowing the various to circulate in communities. australia's prime minister declared it's possible to live with the various. their approach different from our approach. is that an approach we should consider? >> well, good morning. and happy mlk day, craig. so aust...