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>> the vision thing as george w. bush. donald trump has to describe a place where he sees the country three or four years from now. these are the material gains, concrete things that he wants to do, yes, but also a vision for what the country is like after his tenure. and by the way, if i were kellyanne conway i would quit being so cock sure about eight years. i would have a little humility and deference. >> bill: she is not the only one talking that way. the president talks that way, too. >> they ought to step it back and say we hope we earn your trust for a second term, not we're going to ha...

Their seats. >> really striking. >> we have been talking about hillary clinton. what does she have to do. what's a win as we get into the spin room tonight. >> they are happy with the course they have been set on. to a certain extent. let's do everything we have been doing. i do think you got a glimpse at the second debate as he performed at his best. there is a little bit of risk for her. but, you know, that said, i think they are feeling good now. andrea can speak to this as well. traveling to the campaign feels like traveling with the president and waiting. >> as they took her closing comme...

College. these are things i have a feeling we haven't gotten to in this presidential election, have we? >> no an economic advisers debate you're not going to hear much about e-mails or independent da sessions with women. "the washington post" righting about hillary clinton george h.w. bush called it the vision thing. what's the bigger higher calling for why you want to be president. there are some people suggesting that hillary clinton needs to lay that out in the third debate. she hasn't done that in the prior two. she focused primarily on needling donald trump tonight, she needs to do differ...

Going to -- he really has no options. because that's going to help bring out his core supporters but that's not going to broaden his base. he's kind of cornered himself in, you know, into that corner. >> okay. so hillary clinton she needs i think to do the vision thing, right? she needs to, to -- to quell the fierce of people who are afraid of a clinton presidency. they want to know what hillary clinton is going to do for the country. what is her vision for the country? how does she move the country forward? will she do that tonight? >> well, she needs to. that's the only thing she needs to do...

Major controversies. how do they deal with this on this huge debate stage? last best chance for donald trump to turn around his campaign as well. >> manu raju live for us this morning, thanks so much. let's talk about all of this. with me, jason johnson, politics editor of the root.com, cnn political commentator rebecca berg, national political reporter for real clear politics and mark preston. welcome to all of you. such a lot to talk about. mark, i want to start with you. this is the last chance that these candidates have to present their vision to the american people. will we really get int...