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I think the message is about school choice is that one she will be debate -- >> i'm going to counter act. that she said she never visited a failing school in her state. >> i'm lamenting the fact that we can't have a debate about school choice because she can't articulate. i'm agreeing she shouldn't have done that and i'm lamenting the fact that we can't have a serious policy debate about whether we should continue to pour money into public schools or give people a choice. >> do you nod. >> i think -- >> yes or no. >> i'm not going to answer you. what time does this segment end. >> if you've ne...