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The one thing they want it hear. >> you know, chris, the commandener chief role i think is often down played in election times, particularly election times where the economy is so front and center. but i would say it is the most basic hurdle you have to clear. barack obama after becoming democratic nominee in 2008 went to europe to show that on a world stage he could be a commanding presence and he had kind of the right experience to do so. i think if you don't get beyond that initial hurdle to be able to give those speeches, to give remarks like you just heard with credibility, and with gravi...

Some. so this is another moment to krt credentials ahead of a campaign and opponent who attacks the very nature of that leadership. >> well, the wonderful thing you didn't mention is that if there's a 3 a.m. phone call right now, they would both be on the line, of course. they are talking to each other at 3:00 in the morning on this kind of stuff. chris, let's get back it politics for a minute. i think maybe the republicans who are -- they are certainly as smart as democrats and never noticed an iq difference, but they must not have anticipated the fact that at any moment the president could s...