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And kitschy and appeal to his base that are not well thought through. hey, why would you need expert advisers when you have pepe the frog telling you what to do. >> and that's part of it. jennifer, there is a contempt for expertise that we've seen. this contempt for the establishment. and you see it in this -- and also sort of desire to use the power of the state as a propaganda outlet. i find this voice idea that the government is going to publish the official reports of crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants or honor killing. this is really using the power of the state in some pretty al...

Frog telling you what to do. >> and that's part of it. jennifer, there is a contempt for expertise that we've seen. this contempt for the establishment. and you see it in this -- and also sort of a desire to use the power of the state as a propaganda outlet. i find this voice idea that the government is going to publish the official reports of crimes committed by unauthorized immigrants or honor killing. this is really using the power of the state in some pretty alarming ways. >> the voice thing is worse, he just says "aliens" not even illegal aliens. you could be a visa holder, or a green car...