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Average of claims is like $25,000 and people won't give that up easily and ask state representatives to fight for it. paul: james that's 1.25 trillion or so over ten years, state and local tax deduction to finance lower rates, you take that out, you don't get lower rates? >> it's a good reform even though it's going to hurt people like us temporarily, what it does it creates a big incentive for the high-taxed poorly run states like we live in to reform. [laughter] >> you look at the big picture. this is about growing the economy, getting out of the sort of obama-era slump that we are still bum...

Manhattan alone something -- the average of claims is like $25,000 and people won't give that up easily and ask state representatives to fight for it. paul: james that's 1.25 trillion or so over ten years, state and local tax deduction to finance lower rates, you take that out, you don't get lower rates? >> it's a good reform even though it's going to hurt people like us temporarily, what it does it creates a big incentive for the high-taxed poorly run states like we live in to reform. [laughter] >> you look at the big picture. this is about growing the economy, getting out of the sort of obam...