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On that. he can stand up there as a bipartisan sort of president. look, i got republicans on board on this. i'm leading. it would be interesting to see if there's a tick up in the polls after he gets this done next week because i think there's widespread agreement that it's out of control, what's happening on congress. >> a tick up for the congress of the united states. this looks to me, quite frankly, as mika has been saying, like fairly small -- >> everyone has -- >> $50 billion has been dumped out. i mean, what is -- are they going to separate these derivatives and all this stuff from the b...

Street. >> they'll say, yeah, we're with reform but they'll go after him in nothing. >> the nothing burger, pat, does this go far enough -- >> does it prevent the biggest problem. >> i'm with mika on this thing. basically, i think they ought to take the casinos out of the banks. >> you don't think the -- >> no, i don't think is does. i agree with the volcker rules, quite frankly. >> explain the volcker rule. >> basically, he talks about these derivatives, talks about all these other things that nobody understands, including these bank executives. they're at enormous risk. they did nothing for ...