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Sure he's ignored them. but it's still -- what's up, did he treat you nicely or even -- even some general discussion of topics. you don't even want the allegation but it's unlikely that would result in obstruction charge. >> my sense from reading your piece that some of this may stem from a general sort of -- i think you called it curiosity or just the desire to know more, this is a president who likes to have information, who likes to bounce things off of people and see what they're seeing and hearing what they're hearing. >> he's a vor ashs consumer of television news and newspapers to see w...

North korean officials over the past year. susan did he imagino, another expert on the team meeting with the north koreans, says what they really want to know is what makes president trump tick. >> they really want to know what is his end game. they want to know if he's crazy or if this is just an act. is this a good cop bad cop routine that he's doing with tillerson. >> if they listen to rex tillerson, they hear one thing. if they listen to secretary of defense mattis, they hear very similar things. and then if they listen to president trump, they hear something that's probably totally differ...