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mustafa suleyman, welcome to hardtalk. thanks for having me. it's a great pleasure to have you here. now, you, in your career, are wrestling with the complex relationship between us humans and increasingly intelligent machines. it seems, if i've got it right, that you're not so much worried about the machines — you're worried about us, our wisdom. is that right? it's a great way of putting it. i mean, i think the great challenge we have is one of governance. containment means that we should always be in control of the technologies that we create. and we need to make sure that they ...

that the united states won't veto. the us says it wants to make sure israel still has control over goods moving into gaza, to ensure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands. 0ur united nations correspondent, nada tawfik, has the latest from new york. what i heard from one diplomat is that they've made more progress today than they have all week and that they are narrowing the gaps. what we have received is the latest draft resolution and it is different in key aspects from the last proposal. instead of calling for a suspension of hostilities, the draft now calls for urgent steps to imme...

and the diplomatic effort to bring a pause to the fighting — with negotiations continuing for a fourth day to attempt to secure a unanimous un security council vote on the suspension of hostilities in gaza. meanwhile separate talks are understood to be continuing to arrange another exchange of hostages held by hamas, for palestinian prisoners detained in israel. egypt and qatar are thought to be trying to broker a deal — and the leader of hamas — which is considered to be a terrorist organisation by the us and many other countries — ismail haniyeh, has travelled to egypt, to ...

a security council resolution to let more aid in has been delayed since monday as member states try to work out a draft that the united states won't veto. the us says it wants to make sure israel still has control over goods moving into gaza, to ensure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands. 0ur united nations correspondent nada tawfik has the latest from new york. i heard from one diplomat that they have made more progress today than they have all week and that they are narrowing the gaps. what we have received is the latest draft resolution and it is different in key aspects from the...

thank you. thank you for having me to your home town. last time we met was in la. i'm much happier that we're meeting here. yes, i know, it's beautiful. you suggested the world war ii museum. yeah, isuggested it because my dad fought in saipan during world war ii and it really made an impact on me, you know. he would talk about it briefly, and then he went through some things, some challenges afterwards that showed you how to deal with adversity. and so it taught me a lot. and so i like to come here as it expands. it really shows the sacrifices that people made, that the country made...