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Hispanic, a pew study would show. it would probably benefit democrats greatly to have the new voters on the rolls. jon: if good politics is good policy and if this thing gets passed by the congress and signed into law, then you see benefits for both parties? >> no, look, i think right now you've got to look at what happened in 2012, the white vote in the united states has declined to under 75% of the vote now, that is a place where republicans have always done well. mitt romney won up near 60% of the -- of those votes. that vote declines, it's all about death rates and birth rates, and the his...

Towards gingrich and it would amplify the momentum that gingrich has. in a new poll today, he has a 21-point lead. but i think in the end that it's all over but the 9-9-9'ing. his support is going to decline, and it's not just a function of these scandals. the truth is, and the scandals have tended to obscure it, that for all of the charisma he has, all of the interest that he brings to this race, his sort of likability, the fact is that he's displayed an astounding degree of incoherence and confusion about issues ranging from abortion to libya. i don't think he was ever going to be the republ...

Likability, the fact is that he's displayed an astounding degree of incoherence and confusion about issues ranging from abortion to libya. i don't think he was ever going to be the republican nominee. he might help mitt hold on, but if he gets out and his vote declines, it's all going to go to gingrich. >> what do you make of his charges? is he charging -- the democrats saying they fear -- they want newt as the opponent. now, let me ask you a question. is there any logic to that, michael, as a republican strategist? do you think the democrats want newt? and therefore they want to get rid of an...

Going to help romney some. if you look at the favorables, unfavorables among his voters, his voters overwhelmingly move towards gingrich and it would amplify the momentum that gingrich has. in a new poll today, he has a 21-point lead. but i think in the end that it's all over but the 9-9-9'ing. his support is going to decline, and it's not just a function of these scandals. the truth is, and the scandals have tended to obscure it, that for all of the charisma he has, all of the interest that he brings to this race, his sort of likability, the fact is that he's displayed an astounding degree of...