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Know what the truth is, that is a problem. pennsylvania is hiding it. so why is this happening? why does it matter? the real foreign influences dealing the voting's in the election, maryland is trying to fix the machines, the real problem is they allowed people on the roles who are not legal. >> shannon: we know that there are states, i have talked to governor abbott in texas, when he was the attorney general, he said that they had cases on a more frequent basis that he had prosecuted people. people have gone to jail over this. >> in stark county, texas, that human trafficking, this is a count...

A problem. pennsylvania is hiding it. so why is this happening? why does it matter? the real foreign influences dealing the voting's in the election, maryland is trying to fix the machines, the real problem is they allowed people on the roles who are not legal. >> shannon: we know that there are states, i have talked to governor abbott in texas, when he was the attorney general, he said that they had cases on a more frequent basis that he had prosecuted people. people have gone to jail over this. >> in stark county, texas, that human trafficking, this is a county along the rio grande, where pe...

Patronizing to say that african-americans are unable to get a driver's license. not to mention a driver's license is very important to do a number of functions in society. so i would -- >> i didn't just say african-americans. i said minorities and folks who don't have the means and some poor people who don't have the means to easily get to those offices. and it's been shown by various and multiple studies that the majority of people who affected by voter i.d. laws are minorities and people of lesser means. that's just the facts. >> again, it's important to not underestimate the power of -- >> ...

>> you went through a thorough review. you have taken it on the chin. i've been among those that have been very publicly critical of what gallup was doing over the years. let's start with what you believe is the biggest problem you faced and that happened to be it appears number one on your list is this likely voter screen. >> i would even broaden that up and say likely voter process. how do we actually figure out who is going to turn out and vote. that's a moving target. that's changing. we're using a model that was developed decades ago. it's probably outdated. probably needs to be changed. ...

Preclearance from the justice department saying your voter i.d. puts an aspecial and extra burden especially on latinos who oftentimes don't have driver's licenses or it costs $22 i guess to get some of the documents that would get you a voter i.d. card in your state what's your response to holder today. >> this is another example of the federal government impinging on the rights of the states to decide issues how they are going to oversea and keep fraud from going on in the voter process. i mean, that's what this issue is about we know for a fact there has been fraud involved in the voting pr...