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Probably voting against trump and we would find he did really badly all things equal in places where lots of noncitizens live and we didn't find that there are studies that show they're sloppy and out of date. some people move and don't notify the previous voting authorities that they have moved. is there any connection between voter registration problems and voter fraud? >> no, there isn't. yes, you do find that people move including in his family. they move. they don't cancel their registration in one state and they register in another. that is such a far cry from actual voter fraud. it is a...

Because i've been around this track, you've been around this track, a lot of this has to do with people who are conflating names who appear on the voter rolls because they've passed, because they've moved and the system hasn't caught up with them yet. and the idea that someone committed fraud by voting as another individual, and the latter is that which there is no evidence of. >> right. so in other words, he's not drawing any distinction between voter fraud and voter registration problems. so there are voting registration problems, and, in fact, two of his close advisers, steve bannon and the...

Effort by what is now the united states government to lie and confuse the fact that there are voter registration problems with an allegation that there were 3 to 5 million felonies committed, a massive, multiple person criminal conspiracy. and if that didn't happen, they need to stop lying about it. >> charlie sykes, the g.o.p. off site is about to take place in philadelphia where in theory they should be having a dance party all night long, and they're going to be sitting there with their heads in their hands going, what in the world is -- why would this even -- why would donald trump do this...

>> don? >> if somebody is going to answer a question, how about hillary clinton answer whether she's going to give the $25 million back to saudi arabia for their abuse of girls. >> so many things that are wrong with what she just said. >> go ahead. >> first of all i think it's important to be very clear. it is in fact true that there are people who are dead, who are on the voter rolls because it takes a long time to get those rolls cleaned up that. doesn't mean people are going to vote, somebody's going to say i'm so-and-so, this dead person. the idea you have voter registration problems and v...

There are tens of thousands of dead registered voters. i just think it is irresponsible. if somebody is going to answer a question about last night, how about hillary clinton answer whether she is going to give the $25 million back to saudi arabia for their abuse of girls. >> there's something wrong with what she just said. >> go ahead. >> first of all, i think it is important to be very clear. it is, in fact, true that there are people who are dead who are on the voter rolls because it takes a long time to get the rolls cleaned up. that does not mean people are therefore going to vote, that s...