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Take in a few minutes. i've been struck by a lot of people criticizing joe biden's speech whether you thought he went too far or what have you. we're in a break glass in case of emergency moment and i wrote about it in this book and talked to you about it, people more upset when people say that they are on the same side as the biggots, that's not what joe biden said. he said if you're against voting rights, you are on the same side as those folks. doesn't mean you are that. but it makes people think about it and i think history may look back if we continue along this road and it may look back ...

Democrats when they're back in the minority. it's hard to see how this gets resolved given these philosophical oppositions to performing the filibuster. >> i think which have to recognize that the filibuster has absolutely its roots in jim crow. and if we are to talk about an enfranchised america, we want to make sure we have access to the voting booth equally regardless of zip code, so every single american can play by the same rules. sarah, why is it so important to pass the freedom to vote act? >> exactly what you said. not only does this roll out a uniform standard to assure equitable acce...

Off. we condition show what's going on. i am putting on my mask. you can see most voters are plopping the mail-in ballot in the pink voting box, grab a sticker, head to work. we have seen a fair amount of people vote in person, for some families a tradition thing, others want the experience of coming into vote. not a lot of people in there, mostly workers. there's a real ebb and flow. the enthusiasm gap people worried about, particularly democrats when they focus on urban districts, this is a mixed minority community, lot of black and latino people here inside city limits that weren't jazzed u...

Worried about? >> it limits access to the voting box, limits mail-in balloting, it does everything necessary to win elections by inches. elections are not about thousands of people when it's about a few people poll by poll. we have a leadership program we product called redemption, and it talks about the elections of 1875 and much of what is taking place now, if you read this book, some of the misinformation we read in the book is being repeated if you look at what took place in 1960, whether it's in south carolina or georgia, it's the same thing revisited. we have to look towards a future. st...

Change things, right, because they're threatened by losing power, you know. so we need to be standing up for democracy. we need to be standing up for voters' rights for all people, you know, and especially for the elders who can't get out to vote, you know, and might need to use the valid -- the voting box. >> reporter: are you optimistic, hopeful things can change? >> yes, i am optimistic and i'm going to keep coming down because i know things can and will change. >> reporter: thank you. the best today. we heard from derek johnson, the head of the naacp, who said something fascinating. he was...