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Approve voting changes for any new law they had to pass. same with georgia and alabama. remember, chris, north carolina is basically where the republican party perfected its frankenstein monster, where all the craziest policies originate from. so the lame duck -- they originated in 2016. that's when the republican legislature stripped the democratic governor of power in 2016, tried to take away his ability to appoint majorities on the state board of elections, the very state board of election that is now investigating the fraud in bladen county is unconstitutional because of how the republican...

Of places like bladen county might be a place that has preclearance. it seems like the place that should have it. extra scrutiny. there were pockets, large pockets, huge pockets where there was some stuff going on that was really not kosher and the federal government came in to specifically look at it. >> that's absolutely right, chris. 40 counties in north carolina were subject to the pre-clearance provision of the voting rights act. but essentially the state had to approve voting changes for any new law they had to pass. same with georgia and alabama. remember, chris, north carolina is basic...

The these issues and the need for us to keep doing this work. here's the deal. if, in fact, this lawsuit, and i haven't seen the contours of it. it was a lawsuit brought under the voting rights act and it's determined and found that georgia engaged in intentional discrimination in the various schemes that we saw in the year leading up to this election, it is possible for the parties to ask for georgia to be bailed in, and the bail in provision remains untouched by the supreme court's decision in the shelby county versus holder case, and that part of the voting rights act allows parties to ask ...

What i think is a distraction from the work of both parties to sort of put together. >> quickly, josh, before we wrap this up, i mean, clearly a lot of people want this done. millions of dollars have been raised. i mean, what do you make of that? >> there's a lot of people who are, have a lot of sore feelings after this election and i think that is totally legitimate. and people have the right to use their dollars to vote and they have the right to use the dollars to support the recount. no one is disputhiing that but t the viewers know the result is the same and not clear what the ultimate be...

Looked at the map, if we were having this conversation on thursday or friday morning, we would be saying can donald trump really turn eight or nine states in a week or ten days? you need a national change in the race to do that. is this that national change? we won't know for sure until tuesday or wednesday when the polling settles down a little bit but the clinton campaign believes it's not. of course they would. one of the reasons is because of early voting we talked about already. like this race, it's not a traditional -- if this was a 2000 campaign before voting changes happened and there ...