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With section 2 governing us at this point. >> i think a post-section 5 world will be a scary place. we're seeing that immediately, five of nine states fully covered by section 5 rushed to implement new voter i.d. laws. the ink was barely dry in the supreme court and they're saying we're going to implement these laws immediately. it shows how much they want to initiate voter suppression laws. if the chief justice looked at the record since 2006 he would see section 5 blocked 31 laws from going into effect after congress reauthorized it. six of the nine states in the south passed new voter restr...

Debo, said we do. >> that's what's stunning. justice kagan put this question to our adversary during the oral argument. she said, who gets to decide? and the constitution on this point is crystal clear. the 15th amendment puts it with congress to enforce the amendment against racial discrimination in voting. congress looked at this very carefully, as julie mentioned, and studies done at the time and since have shown that the repetitive and adaptive discrimination happens in certain places. congress never said the voting discrimination only happens there. what it said is we need a special respo...

It's an important point that justice roberts, in his opinion, made it seem as if we were in the reauthorization only relying on what had happened a long time ago to determine which jurisdiction need to continue to have the preclearance obligations, when, in fact, what congress did in 2006 was to look very carefully at recent incidents of voting discrimination, what was happening to real voters in real places. justice roberts and the court just got it wrong. they haven't walked in the shoes of john lewis. they haven't walked to see what discrimination looks like and where it looks that way. >> ...

Is voting discrimination. we think the way congress did this may not be the right way, but congress, it's up to you. that's the important part we are now. >> we have a member of congress, a republican who voted for that reauthorization the last time it came up and a current member of congress. a democrat. we're going to talk about precisely that. debo adlegbile. julie fernandes. how is congress going to take on this mess? i will ask a democrat and a republican if there's any hope. that's next.

Have the preclearance obligations, when, in fact, what congress did in 2006 was to look very carefully at recent incidents of voting discrimination, what was happening to real voters in real places. justice roberts and the court just got it wrong. they haven't walked in the shoes of john lewis. they haven't walked to see what discrimination looks like and where it looks that way. >> and they just also, i mean, this is just an amazing act of just of judicial activism. they have just told congress -- it's just incredible to me. the question to me, it strikes me, isn't how much progress there is ...