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Interactions with the president, claiming that robert mueller, the new special counsel thooshgs sign off on it first. now, word that the president's son-in-law is part of that probe. chief indulgence correspondent catherine herridge joins us live from washington. what have you learned? >> government source confirms the fbi counter intelligence investigation is scrutinizing meetings between the russian ambassador and members of the trump campaign and the transition team. jared kushner, the president's advisor and son-in-law met with the russian ambassador at least twice including last spring an...

What kind of legal implications could this have for kushner especially since he has business interests with russia. here to help sort out all much this is gregg jarrett, attorney and fox news anchor. i said you're going to walk us through this. people have questions about this. kushner is not a target. that's really important, why, what does that tell you? >> it tells me they don't have any evidence of a crime. otherwise they would have sent kushner and his laura target letter. that's the rule of the department of justice and fbi. it's not a crime to have a conversation with a russian ambassad...

Sanctions imposed by president obama. that's not a crime. he can do that. he can say that. >> sandra: very important to make that distinction. what about the logan act that points private citizens from interviewing in diplomatic disputes with foreign governments. >> doesn't apply, passed in 1799, and nobody has been prosecuted, largely because it's a blatant affront to the first amendment. moreover, kushner and michael flynn for example in having conversations with kysliak aren't acting as private citizen as the law demands but rather official in the incoming administration. they should be hav...

Politically poisonous but would not be a crime. collusion or collaboration with a foreign government in an american political campaign isn't a crime. there is not a single statute that criminalizes it. the only possible crime is tangential, aiding and abetting the hacking of the dnc and the hillary clinton campaign but that probably didn't happen. the trump campaign wasn't computer sophisticated enough to engage hacking anybody. and it would require an overt act. there's no evidence of that. >> sandra: all right, so we know that jared kushner has relations in real estate. as far as his busines...

His assets, hasn't completed it yet. let's not forget that american businesses do a lot of business in russia. i looked it up. pfizer and mars building big factories in russia. boeing, mcdonald's, general motors, ford, starbucks, pepsi. they all have enormous business interests n. and partnerships with russia. so if you're in kushner's position, head of a real estate company, of course you're going to take advantage of that market. again, nothing wrong with that. >> sandra: while he's under investigation, is there any chance he will lose his security clearance? >> president trump is the ultima...