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Of the democratic electorate turned out in the primary. that's down from 43% for the primary in 2006. those are disastrous numbers for democrats, and we're seeing the fruition of rahm emanuel's strategy of trying to corral corporate donations for democrats by essentially becoming republicans, and it has disappointed the electorate. his -- obama's approval numbers amongst liberals, if you compare them to the -- to the voting numbers in 2008 are down dramatically, and it's because he has failed to stand up and become the transformative president who promised to stand up to corporate america. and...

Just think about the symmetry your argument is -- >> chris, honestly. wouldn't you need to have someone making a complaint and someone saying we were in fact intimidated. we were not allowed. there was undue pressure put on us. no one said that. >> i looked at the voting numbers. i looked at the voting numbers. eight votes in that division for the republican candidate, george w. bush in 24. you had about 24 votes for him again the second time in 2004. this time you had something like 13 for the republican, about the average of the last two times, so it didn't look like there was any bottom -- ...

And what looks to uniforms. one guy is carrying a dangerous stick there that he could break some heads with, and that wouldn't intimidate you if you had to walk past them? think about the symmetry of your argument. >> chris, wouldn't you need to have someone making a complaint and someone saying we were, in fact, intimidated. we were not allowed. there was undue pressure put on us. >> no. i looked at the voting numbers. you have eight votes in the division for the republican candidate george w. bush in 2000. you had 24 votes for him again if second time in 2004. this time you had something lik...

Carrying a pretty dangerous stick there that he could break some heads with and that wouldn't intimidate you if you have to walk past him? just think about the symmetry what your argument is. >> chris, honestly. wouldn't you need to have someone making a complaint and someone saying we were in fact intimidated. we were not allowed. there was undue pressure put on us. no one said that. >> i looked at the voting numbers. i looked at the voting numbers. 8 votes in that division for the republican candidate george w. bush, 24 votes for him again the second time in 2004. this time you had something...

Do you think she believes the borders have gotten stronger in arizona or why would she make that statement n your opinion? >> well, i think they don't want to address it. probably politically, i believe that they want the multitudes. we know politically, registration, voting numbers, tend to lean towards a democratic edge probably more than they do republicans. for whatever the reasons, they certainly do not address the issue in arizona. it is very, very frustrating. it is interesting, you know, 70% of the people not only in arizona, but 70% of the people throughout the united states agree the...