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Winebanks and kimberly atkins store. garrett, it's good to see you. let me start by playing more of your exchange with senator manchinle we'll discuss on the other side. >> my democrat colleagues have known me for over ten years. they've watched my voting pattern. it's been the most bipartisan in the senate. for them to think i wanted to change my voting pattern because i want to be the one person in the middle -- everything changed. i don't change. i represent the state of west virginia. that's who hired me, and i represent the best possible faction i can, and i'm not going to get in a situat...

With garrett haake, our nbc news correspondent covering capitol hill. who saw got a chance to speak with joe manchin today. also with us, lisa lerer, national political correspondent with the new york times. and barb mcquade, federal u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. she is a professor at her on the matter, university of michigan law school and cohost of the podcast, sisters in law. along with three other friends of ours. joyce vance, john -- for good evening, welcome to you all. garrett, it's good to see you. let me start by playing more of your exchange with senator manchin...

From states like new york and california who tend to be democrat voters, but ted cruz also has a bit of a likability problem. that's what he saw the challenge. >> melissa: if you look at the statement they made, "if democrats show up in huge numbers and republicans don't show up at all, "well, duh!" [laughter] i think he's trying to get folks that excited. there's a question about people who are traditionally liberals moving to other states, for tax benefits. do they change their voting pattern? i did a little drilling down on that. here's the phenomenon, katie. if a company moves and takes al...

Things you are going to throw in. it's remarkable. >> it it is not a game, and investors are telling you -- i know people have advised him in the past and people close to him are telling him do not -- stop bashing the fed, and they are probably going to try and get them together in the beginning of the year, and he needs to be educated on what the fed does. >> you are calling for an intervention? >> yes. i just think he's right, the economy is strong, and he went off yesterday about how the economy is strong and that's why the fed is raising interest rates, and that's true, but you need not a ...

You just ran. but they are completelyhe divorced from the concerns of normal americans with respect to what these individuals who are going to be imminently crossing the border are going to do with respect to the rule of law, our sovereignty, the public health, crime rates and so on. >> tucker: so they are, as you just noted, the people you are watching on television and reading in the newspaper. they are arguing there is a racial divide and the villains are these, you know, industrial era, post industrial area middle class white people who are all bigots. but the voting pattern suggests somet...