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State legislators can do this if they go through the process. but it doesn't seem fair to people at all. and the one vote, one person obviously is violated. so what is the defense mechanism that can be put in place here? >> well, it's beyond that, ed. there is a supreme court case to be heard now. they want to pull the plug on section 5 enforcement mechanism. they want to argue that why quote/unquote the south, the voting act does not apply to the south. it's based upon need to protect people. when you look at the voting patterns of 2012, it's evidence obviously people in voting patterns that ...

People at all. and the one vote, one person obviously is violated. so what is the defense mechanism that can be put in place here? >> well, it's beyond that, ed. there is a supreme court case to be heard now. they want to pull the plug on section 5 enforcement mechanism. they want to argue that why quote/unquote the south, the voting act does not apply to the south. it's based upon need to protect people. when you look at the voting patterns of 2012, it's evidence obviously people in voting patterns that threaten to ease access to voting. and race is a major factor in that conclusion. >> i nee...

Publicity in the last few weeks, state legislators can do this if they go through the process. but it doesn't seem fair to people at all. and the one vote, one person obviously is violated. so what is the defense mechanism that can be put in place here? >> well, it's beyond that, ed. there is a supreme court case to be heard now. they want to pull the plug on section 5 enforcement mechanism. they want to argue that why quote/unquote the south, the voting act does not apply to the south. it's based upon need to protect people. when you look at the voting patterns of 2012, it's evidence obviousl...

Joan, what is the solution here? if they don't have the state legislatures, they'll have to get them back. that is the only thing that is going to stop this tidal wave. >> a few things can stop it. obviously turning things around in 2014 will help. i think the justice department does have some overnight. you know, section 5 of the voting rights act lets millennium review states where they've had a history of racial discrimination in voting patterns. so there is some recourse there, at least in terms of review. it's not clear exactly what they could do to change what has been done. and public o...

>> sure. joan, what is the solution here? if they don't have the state legislatures, they'll have to get them back. that is the only thing that is going to stop this tidal wave. >> a few things can stop it. obviously turning things around in 2014 will help. i think the justice department does have some overnight. you know, section 5 of the voting rights act lets millennium review states where they've had a history of racial discrimination in voting patterns. so there is some recourse there, at least in terms of review. it's not clear exactly what they could do to change what has been done. and...