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So i don't want to be pessimistic about it because i think this is a worthy and necessary battle. i saw you talking to my two friends, karen dunn and robbie kaplan. you know, when they took on that case against the neo-nazis and the white supremacists coming out of charlottesville, you know, a lot of people were sort of scratching their heads. i remember talking to both of them, particularly karen, whom i have known and she has worked for me and i admire her greatly, about why they were doing it. you know, it was very simple. somebody had to do it. we have got to end impunity. we have to hold ...

You did this, how close this is to what you were aiming for from the beginning. >> yeah. so, rachel, thank you for having us. we are thrilled beyond any imagination with this verdict.hr we came to charlottesville to prove a conspiracy to commit racially motivated violence. we proved that as to each and every defendant we brought this case against. we came to secure compensatory and punitive damages for our plaintiffs, and we did that. we secured that today. so we couldn't be happier with the result that we got for the plaintiffs in this case, who we just came from seeing many of them. they are...

And also within a couple of hours of that happening, we also got a verdict today in another super high-profile, high-stakes trial of a very, very different kind. w charlottesville, virginia, we have been watching this trial of nearly two dozen neo-nazis and white supremacists and far-right groups that organized a white supremacist rally/riot in charlottesville in 2017. this was the incident where president trump said there were very fine people on both sides. what this case has been is a civil case brought by plaintiffs against the neo-nazis and white supremacists defendants. the plaintiffs ar...

Process since the events of 2017 to bring all of this to fruition, but again, they have done what they set out to do, with o all of this emotionally fraught effort to get it done. joining us live from charlottesville are the two plaintiffs' lawyers in this case. thank you for being here. i imagine you are exhausted. this has been a long trial. >> i think that's fair to say, rachel. thanks for having us. >> so it was something like three dozen witnesses on your side, 3 1/2 weeks of testimony, up against all of these defendants, some of whom tried to pretend the case wasn't happening and there w...

On in charlottesville, and we really only knew i think half of it before we saw the truth told on the witness stand at trial. we saw a theme emerge. we saw that people came to plow through counterprotesters with their bodies, with shields, and finally, as everyone tragically knows, with a car. it was all versions of the same thing. we also got an admission today from one of the defense counsel, who after the verdict told a reporter that actually they had implemented a strategy to desensitize the jury to the hateful rhetoric and violence and just the racial epithets that were used by saying the...