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visit poland, wasn't it? that was due to be in the next couple of days. this is all ahead of the anniversary of the war on ukraine. let's get to nic, he joins us here at the desk. i mean, obviously, this was out of the blue because of the massive security concerns. >> traveling overseas, it's not the first time that the president has done this, traveling without full disclosure what's happening. very tightly held information. very important for ukraine that the u.s. president should go there. remembering it wasn't so long that president zelenskyy himself visited the white house. that...

An investigation on a political rival . Mr. Morrison . In that hypothetical, no, i dont think he should do that. Yeah. And ambassador volker, im sure you agree. Yes. And the same would be true if it were a governor withholding the budget requests of the state police unless the state police agreed to conduct an investigation on a political rival. You would agree . Correct. Yes, sir. In your view is it any different for a member of congress . Of course not, right . Would you agree that the president has the same obligation as the mayor, as the governor, as the member of congress to not withhold ...

Kaitlan collins, she's also in w warsaw, following the president's trip. kaitlan, i mean in terms of the entourage around president biden, what would we expect to be with him -- presumably, he's got to be discreet, but also secure, of course. >> reporter: yeah, that's one of the biggest parts of this, is doing it in secrecy, and maintaining the idea that it is so closely held, that the president is going -- and i will note, you know, saturday night in washington, he did something that he and the first lady rarely do which is leave the white house and go to dinner. they did do that, though, jus...

The white house where ambassador sondland raised the investigations but you didn't know it was about the bidens, and that's your testimony at the time? >> i didn't think he was talk about anything specific. >> you heard him talk about investigations, and you thought it was inappropriate, but i didn't know it was the bidens, i just thought it was inappropriate. and i guess when they were in the ward room and ambassador sondland and burisma raised biden in 2016 you misunderstood that. >> that is correct. >> and in august you spent a good part of this time with this statement with rudy giuliani. ...