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Resignation does not address the fundamental problem at the v.a., the abject failure to meet the needs of our veterans. meanwhile, the scandal has spread beyond phoenix across the midwest. delayed care and wait lists found at seven facilities. kansas, missouri, illinois, and indiana. at least 96 veterans waited at least 90 days for treatment. today, the new acting v.a. secretary said he tried to get >> as the president has directed, we are moving immediately to get veterans off of wait lists and into clinics, and we're taking action to fix the systemic problems that allowed these unacceptable ...

Parts of the country as it is now. the reason for that these wait lists, they're not wait lists, bill. they're death list. if you got on the wait list you were getting on a list you were not going to be treated. put those military veterans immediately into private health care while you fix the veterans health care. bill: why not give the power to hire and fire? >> that is the biggest problem. this is dirty little secret about government. nobody ever gets fired. you get more people. so as a result of that, incompetence or corruption just breeds. if you're a government employee, if you're a vete...

Think she is considered a whistle blower, she should be considered a hero that there is that little virtue within the system. within the administration of the v.a. that somebody come forward with something so bad about, giving care, nonetheless. that this is where we are. that she is repry imagineded. i would like to say it is not true but she knows what she's talking about. >> she does. >> another whistle blower who wouldn't fake the records? so they suspended her for several weeks? how corrupt is this? can we believe anything the v.a. has said? >> it is so unbelievable. it is so the opposite...

Ve veterans and open or expand more than two dozen medical centers across the country. the problems at the va go far beyond eric shinseki, as far back as 2004, according to this inspe inspector gin reneral report th were keeping informal wait lists, in 2004. that practice appears tied to the annual performance reviews to determine raise and bonuses which may have become perverse incentives to manipulate the data. people were incentivized to cheat. veterans returning after 13 years of war in afghanistan but due to expanded coverage of ptsd and agent orange and increased health care needs of agi...

Telling him for years, is being poorly served by the mid-level management. these are the people that have been making the folks change numbers and manipulate the dates and wait lists. >> and mr. chairman, at the root of this. what to you is the problem? is it the unrealistic wait times? is 14 days simply too short a time? is it officials wanting bonuses to make these wait times? is it too much of a centralized bureaucracy, under funding? what is it? what is the core issue? >> everything but the funded side. look, the president wouldn't be traveling around the united states accusation we've giv...