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There's the inspector general's investigation and then of course congress continues to look into the situation as well. but as for immediate care or contact with veterans who might have been on those lists, i haven't seen any report that that's actually happening. >> the reason that we've been trying to follow up on it is because in trying to cover this as a practical problem and not just an opportunity for political fight, it's hard to escape the fact that there are individually identified -- part of the scandal, individually identified veterans in specific need who are on wait lists that are...

To the va is in speaphoenix tod. conceivably he may have been talking to people as well. we don't know because like you said they haven't really told us. we do know that there is sort of secretary led investigation under way. there's the inspector general's investigation and then of course congress continues to look into the situation as well. but as for immediate care or contact with veterans who might have been on those lists, i haven't seen any report that that's actually happening. >> the reason that we've been trying to follow up on it is because in trying to cover this as a practical pro...

House and the va for further details on the president's comments yesterday. we've received no further elaboration as of yet. so is there as the president said some immediate action that can be taken to ease this problem for the veterans who are most affected by the problem? who are currently on wait lists. if so, what is it? if nothing immediate is being done and that was just a misstatement or offhanded comment by the president, why can't something be done in the short-term? this is something that's more than an opportunity for political posturing. this is a real problem that affects real peo...

Have done this month alone. this is back in 2010, specifically found that they were having two lists, one bogus, one that was real. flash forward to may of 2012. the senate holds a hearing, the senate holds a hearing on the problematic, long, ridiculously long waits for care at va facilities. listen to this witness. >> like many va medical centers, the over riding objective at our facility from top management down was to meet our numbers, meaning, to meet our performance measures. the golfs to see as many veterans as possible but not necessarily to provide the treatment needed. >> patty murray...

But that specific portion of his remarks that i just played, that in fact sounds very much like a very specific recommendation directly from the president for something to do right away, doesn't it? >> let's not wait for the report retrospectively to reach out immediately to veterans who are currently waiting for appointments. >> is that happening? what does that mean the president said that? we've not been able to get any details from the white house or from veterans affairs since the president read those remarks as to whether or not those remarks mean there is some short-term immediate outre...