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Have to show and prove beyond a reasonable doubt is that the parents acted in a grossly neglect fashion. not that they were careless or merely neglect but they were grossly neglect. they were reckless in terms of their conduct. so it's really a situation that is fact dependent and we've heard some from the prosecution in terms of what they think their facts are that show the parents acted in a reckless fashion, and interestingly enough we heard from the defense today, wait a minute, the prosecution is kind of cherry picking some facts. once you hear all the facts you will see that our clients ...

The bill doubles and the effect on the deficit is tenfold. i hope joe manchin will respond appropriately. i was told they will analyze this bill assuming that the new programs don't fund this which is reality. they will give me a cost estimate in the programs stay in effect. it will blow the doors off washington. if we pass this bill, god help america. >> sean: joe manchin from west virginia has been saying wait a minute, i want to see the numbers here. we have numbers from penn and from the committee for a responsible federal budget. they a 4.8-trillion dollars. how can the numbers be so far ...

I hope joe manchin will respond appropriately. next friday, i was told they will analyze this bill assuming that the new programs don't fund this which is reality. they will give me a cost estimate in the programs stay in effect. which they will, and it will blow the doors off washington. if we pass this bill, god help america. >> sean: joe manchin from west virginia has been saying wait a minute, i want to see the numbers here. now we have numbers from penn and from the committee for a responsible federal budget. they a 4.8-trillion dollars. not $1.7 trillion. and they are saying $1.5 trillio...

It's $34 a month. on the broader issue, it's going to deal with supply chain issues and with labor shortages. one of the reasons you've seen food prices increase is because of a shortage of workers. if you can get people back in to the work force by having child care, if you can get them helping with the supply chain, the investments -- >> neil: think about it, congressman. there's ten million americans that are ignores job opportunities, good job opportunities and offers out there. are you saying the only reason why they're not is because of child care issues and that will magically change wi...

Conversation, katie. neil, i watched your coverage as this was happening and i felt despair watching your analysis. tell us what you made of today. >> you normally hear supreme court folks say you can't predict for moral argument and so and and the justices can surprise you, i agree with that to a certain point, but you can predict. most of the time you can predict. this is one in which yes, something unusual can happen, but the predictions are basically mississippi wins. the only question is do they win hugely big or win only basically one step below that, but still huge. and really, the deba...