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Maintenance of 700 miles of barriers that already existed. >> you are absolutely right. three u.s. presidents, george senior and bush and all of them approved walls and fences. republicans and democrats have approved walls and fences. how come we don't want donald trump to build his own wall? the reason is very simpl simple -- first, because it is use less and there is not a national emergency like 9/11 when a wall were built and third, it is really important, i think donald trump has created a symbol for many people. the wall is a symbol of racism. many members of congress -- >> that's absolu...

Something like the war in iraq, 9/11. as you know there are about 700 amount of walls between mexico and the united states. those were created and built after 9/11. that's a real crisis, not what donald trump and his followers are trying to pro momote right . where is the crisis? at this moment we have some of the safest kmucommunities in th country along the border. it fell back to 10.7 millions. we really don't need a wall at this moment. >> mark. >> i don't see a possibility of a crisis. >> jorge ramos and mark marcorg. we'll speak ahead with an air traffic controller having just three buck...

The drugs, what you are saying is not true. the vast majority of drugs in this country happens al legal ports of entry and not on the border. that had nothing to do. >> that's a false narrative. >> that's wrong. >> the number of arrests that we have in the last few years are among the lowest in the last 20 years and if you are right, how come out of the nine members of congress who represents the district along the u.s. mexico border, how come not a single one of them support the deal of the wall. where is the crisis? again, i am open to listen to you. >> jorge, i just gave you facts. human tr...

In 2006, secure fence was approved. a bipartisan build that led to 720 miles a fence. jorge, i challenge you go back and listen to the sound byte of a bipartisan senate in congress including presidents from the democratic side of the house that said exactly the same thing as being said why we need this wall. exactly word-for-word was said back then. >> we don't need more wall. >> that's a lie. >> ten seconds. we got to go. >> just give you a statistic. immigrants. >> jorge ramos and mark morgan. we are about to lose your satellite. i thank you both gentlemen for being with us. a nice discussio...

Who did not get paid today. government workers who had a zero or something similar to that on their paychecks and given there is no negotiations as we speak to end the shutdown? >> we are trying. we have been trying since democrats came into power. that night we pass legislation that would reopen the government, the senate is sitting there, i suppose rating to hatch. the ball is in the senate's court. the president says he'll veto it. there is where the problem lies right there. we are willing to continue to discuss this matter about how to wisely and appropriately and using the taxpayer money...