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>> bill: here's a question. ken paxton, the attorney general down there in texas, he was with us 30 minutes ago. he said it 2010 in el paso, crime was rampant. they built a wall, crime dropped 90%. how can you refute that? >> nobody is talking about open borders except the president. a lot of support all of the common sense measures of the border, including the hundreds of miles of physical barrier that we have already built. what we are talking about now is whether we blow 5 billion on a vanity project and do it by stealing money from the military construction budget. that's a stupid idea. an...

The basis, it has not moved one iota. this is a most sacred promise that he made. to that we care deeply about. secondly, he is going to build a wall. he basically has to make every effort to build this wall. >> bill: what is the way out of it? >> the only way out, clearly, the democrats are not going to move. that is where the money is controlled. so if he does this emergency act, go to the courts, they need to clean this up. basically say this is what executive powers. this is what the daca effort that obama pushed forward. it gets to the supreme court. they say that this is the president's ...

Jiu-jitsu. trying to flip him by saying hey, look, there is no problem because there is a wall. it is interesting to me, i think oh, gee, there is no invasion. i don't see people on the other side trying to climb any wall. it's all there. this fits with the idea that we are in terms of immigration, illegal crossing, at a 20 year low, but you wouldn't know it from all of the talk of crisis coming from the white house. they are trying to make the case for the democrats are the ones who are refusing. again, we come back to the point, republicans had the opportunity over the last year to get this ...

Inside. a little boy, less than a year old. you can see him and being wrapped up. waited for authorities. the baby is okay. just cold and tired, we are told. police say that his mother may have had a mental health crisis. >> what they need more than anything is a barrier. call it whatever you want, whether it is steel or concrete, we need a barrier. >> bill: president trump yesterday doubling down that argument that a strong barrier is critical to securing the border. ken paxton is with me now. live in austin here with the president yesterday. what did you learn? do you want their viewers to u...

Revival. >> but as reported by bob woodward, james mattis, yes the defense secretary plotted to block the president's trade policy. agreed together they would fight trump on this. they meant for lunch at the pentagon to develop an action plan. one cause of the problem was the further belief that annual trade deficits of about $500 billion hog the american economy. how could they convince and educate the president. educate the president, right because if you have a policy opinion that's different from the ruling establishment, you must be stupid. you must be educated. you must be educated about...