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Collect in taxes and give people a tax credit and they can go out and buy insurance. and walker, to his credit, put a number on that and basically said a family of four, two adult, two children, you get $6,000. well, let me just tell you -- >> good luck. >> -- the average employer health insurance now costs $16,000 and that means he's going to shove $10,000 of cost on the average family which would be 20% of the average family's income. he wants people to pay 20% of their pre-tax income for health insurance now. that's the bottom line on the walker proposal and that's why these proposals don't...

Their pre-tax income for health insurance now. that's the bottom line on the walker proposal and that's why these proposals don't fly. the moment the public hears about how much they have to pay they go wild and reject it. we had the burr-coburn hatch that was the most successful senate plan and it went nowhere. after 24 hours it was dead because of the same math. >> zeke emanuel, thank you for giving us a check in on the whole obamacare thing. still ahead, the highly anticipated update to our dwiz fantasy candidate draft but first we'll show you the magic moment behind this image that we've...

Taxed. they say let's get rid of that. let's tax it. employers would drop insurance like a hot potato then. and they then say we'll use the money that we would collect in money and they would get a tax credit and they could go out and buy insurance. and walker, to his credit, put a number on that and basically said a family of four, two adults, two children, you get $6,000. well, let me just tell you draish >> good luck. >> the average employer health insurance now cost $16,000. and that means he's going to shove $10,000 of costs on the average family, which would be 20% of the average family'...

Longer in a position to affect elections with all those hundreds of millions of dollars. the union power is reduced. that's very important point in this dispute. >> in wisconsin alone, i understand, that the average worker who then would not have to pay the $1,000 per year in union dues could pocket that. >> yes, they could. they would. >> or it could go to pay for their health care which is one of the parts of this whole -- >> well, look, part of the walker proposal is that union members, every year would have to say yes, i want to pay union dues to the union. in other words -- >> to -- >> it...