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>> it is a bit of a pattern. there's no walking back that can change what you just laid out in terms of rand paul's career and the challenge he's had around racial rhetoric, the kinds of things he's done over this past week in wisconsin in terms of talking about the prison industrial complex and how it affects black and brown communities is important work, but it just smacks of being purely political. it smacks of being purely an attempt to outreach to a specific community, every time he gets drawn sbak into these things. just to your earlier question, steve, the southern poverty law center ...

Question of rand paul for just a second. this is not the first time, you know, the thing about rand paul had a guy on his staff known as the southern avenger. he had the confederate flag, his comments about abram lincoln and race and all these things. rand paul was very hesitant to have him leave the staff, very hesitant to say anything negative about him afterwards. rand pauled that ha incredible interview where he expressed reservations about the public accommodations of the 1964 civil rights act. at the same time this guy who has made some steps towards trying to bring in african voters in ...

For them in the city or the state. he's flip-flopping on the issue. just goes to show you, he's going to try to slide out of that statement. >> he's since walked balk, do you think it's in fear? >> he's a politician. walking back, they do that all the time. >> do i think his backtracking is sincere? i think backtracking is real ever sincere. >> i think he goofed when he said it in the first place, and he's probably rethinking it now. >> yesterday and again today, we reached out to governor cuomo's office and extended an invitation for him to come on this program and explain himself. we reached...

For them in the city or the state. he's flip-flopping on the issue. just goes to show you, he's going to try to slide out of that statement. >> he's since walked balk, do you think it's in fear? >> he's a politician. walking back, they do that all the time. >> do i think his backtracking is sincere? i think backtracking is real ever sincere. >> i think he goofed when he said it in the first place, and he's probably rethinking it now. >> yesterday and again today, we reached out to governor cuomo's office and extended an invitation for him to come on this program and explain himself. we reached...

Record amount of texas -- tax revenue, are the in the harry reid camp that says we should tax more, the nancy pelosi camp, there's no more room in the cupboard to cut spending? where are they? >> the initial message is, let's work together and get something done. address the long-term drivers of the debt, and they work together daily. students have to work together for projects. they don't understand why the members can't do that. i think they're, like many people in the country, a lot of young people understand there's an issue and what is going on, but don't understand the specifics, so we'r...