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Can point to and say, this corruption, this evidence, these facts show that president trump was warranted in requesting an investigation, not generally into corruption, specifically into hunter biden. it's the only path that will work for republicans that passes even remotely any kind of smell test. even then, it's a bit of a stretch. >> it is a bit of a stretch as you say. there as you mentioned doing this documentary. they're conducting a number of different interviews with what they say are ukrainian witnesses, from a legal standpoint, could any of those interviews, perhaps, be a conflict o...

Proclaimed by this president to be his personal attorney. how should we view that? how should we listen to that tape in light of the role he's playing in this administration today? >> i mean, with great humor that even when giuliani is side lined from television and not supposed to be speaking for the president and a reporter doesn't pick up the phone because he's sleeping you still get a three hin voicemail from giuliani talking about how he needs money. it's almost farcical. but the truth is that rudy giuliani is so entangled in various parts of the world, bahrain here is interesting, we hav...