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Around, we can't, mark, but there is a crowd of people folks walking through here. a lot of spectators. a lot of people from the public that have been filing through here since we have been here for the better part of several hours now. they have their cameras. they have their iphones and they are trying to get as close as they can. taking pictures of media and of us doing live shots. taking pictures of some of the emergency vehicles parked outside of the beverly hilton here. really a true moment in history unfolding before our very eyes and unfolding for us on live television tonight. and act...

Around, we can't, mark, but there is a crowd of people folks walking through here. a lot of spectators. a lot of people from the public that have been filing through here since we have been here for the better part of several hours now. they have their cameras. they have their iphones and they are trying to get as close as they can. taking pictures of media and of us doing live shots. taking pictures of some of the emergency vehicles parked outside of the beverly hilton here. really a true moment in history unfolding before our very eyes and unfolding for us on live television tonight. and act...

Peace-makers, you know what i mean? so it's a different mindset entirely. when you have people who -- iraq is tribal. it's tribal. we leave, there is no strongman there. what happens? >> it's an open question. again, nobody can predict the future with any certainty. i think the problem with the current strategy is getting bogged down in the sort of again whether you want to call them nation building or state building or progressive social change or what have you, the countries and the regions look at us floundering around there and tend to snicker. we're get out in 2011 ostensibly and i think ...

Martin luther king to jesus. peace-makers, you know what i mean? so it's a different mindset entirely. when you have people who -- iraq is tribal. it's tribal. we leave, there is no strongman there. what happens? >> it's an open question. again, nobody can predict the future with any certainty. i think the problem with the current strategy is getting bogged down in the sort of again whether you want to call them nation building or state building or progressive social change or what have you, the countries and the regions look at us floundering around there and tend to snicker. we're get out in...

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