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That kept the caravan out. there is no wall. >> talking to white house officials and top republicans today they say the president's political theater in that meeting with senator schumer and leader pelosi and vice president pence was about sending a signal to the republican base that the president's fighting for the wall. but the white house and top republicans know at the end of the day the president's probably going to have to cut a deal that doesn't get close to the $5 billion he wants for border security and wall building, and he wants to at least have the show that he's fighting for that ...

Meaningful capacity. >> true. >> it's why we like -- he likes to see those demonstrations in san diego where everybody brings up the different kinds of walls. how many times has he walked through or had cameras walk through? we could have it look like this. we could have it look like this. this is clearly something he feels a personal connection to. i am going to argue because it's one of the only things before him as president that he has a basis of knowledge for wall building. >> there's reporting steve bannon came up with the idea of the wall. >> then he chanted back. it was his big rally t...

To see those demonstrations in san diego where everybody brings up the different kinds of walls. how many times has he walked through or had cameras walk through? we could have it look like this. we could have it look like this. this is clearly something he feels a personal connection to. i am going to argue because it's one of the only things before him as president that he has a basis of knowledge for wall building. >> there's reporting steve bannon came up with the idea of the wall. >> then he chanted back. it was his big rally thing. if he thinks the crowds want this. and other than draini...

Diego. no new wall building whatsoever. >> the president is -- his political instincts on this in winning the republican nomination were ugly, but accurate and on point. in the broader american electorate his instincts are horrible and he has to climb down for the wall because mexico is not going to pay for it, it's not going to get built. and the reality, which comes back to your first question, the reality is, out here last night with mike murphy, we're talking about this, again go back to the stephen miller thing, where they were on this policy was going to put 100 republican seats in jeopa...

Structures, especially in san diego. no new wall building whatsoever. >> the president is -- his political instincts on this in winning the republican nomination were ugly, but accurate and on point. in the broader american electorate his instincts are horrible and he has to climb down for the wall because mexico is not going to pay for it, it's not going to get built. and the reality, which comes back to your first question, the reality is, out here last night with mike murphy, we're talking about this, again go back to the stephen miller thing, where they were on this policy was going to put...