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The president repeated his threat today to shut down the government if he doesn't get the money for his border wall before the mid-terms. he even argues it would be good for the gop if there were a shutdown. what do you think? let's have a great debate with ana navarro and steve cortes. here is some of the sound of the president saying it today. he was on with rush limbaugh, who's celebrating 30 years in the business. here's what he said. >> here you are, suggesting that you'd be willing to maybe -- you talk about shutting down the government if that's what it took to get this wall built. >> i...

>> here you are, suggesting that you'd be willing to maybe -- you talk about shutting down the government if that's what it took to get this wall built. >> it's like pulling teeth. getting these guys to get it done is -- and you have no idea how tough i've been. and i say hey, if you have a shutdown you have a shutdown. but whether it's before or after. but i actually think it's a great campaign issue. i think it would be great before. >> steve cortes, shutdown good. why? >> i totally agree. look, i think it's both good policy and good politics. good policy because the president ran on this as...

But he also has a ton of people out there who hate him and think he's the worst thing that ever happened. and, you know, i think a lot of things are going to come up this fall that may jolt you one way or another, but i actually think we're pretty well settled in what camp most people find themselves in. i don't think they're going to change camps. >> even with the outcomes of all of these things happening -- >> what could really jolt it possibly is if mueller comes with a smoking gun, if there's something there as there was with nixon when you have a tape, which convinced everybody he has to ...

Change camps. >> even with the outcomes of all of these things happening -- >> what could really jolt it possibly is if mueller comes with a smoking gun, if there's something there as there was with nixon when you have a tape, which convinced everybody he has to go. on both sides of the aisle. but so far, there's -- we see no evidence that that's what's coming. >> alice stewart, this is what president trump said today about possibly forcing a government shutdown. watch this, please. >> here you are suggesting that you'd be willing to, maybe you would talk about shutting down the government if ...

This policy was put in place. politics intervened. we've seen the president's tweets. you've seen the president's tweets. what do you make of his message to congress? >> let me just say that americans all over this country are concerned about these children. and the president does not get it yet. he knew they were implementing a policy of separating children from their parents. he said it, jeff sessions said it, john kelly said it and they were using these children to try and get his wall built, by intimidating and causing chaos. americans have pushed back on so forcibly and he wanted it to lo...