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Months, if not years. >> if not years. >> exactly. >> we're talking about a very long time that some may be asked to work without pay. >> that's right. >> fred, that's right. and it's like, like elementary school, when someone, no, you can't play with my balls. my ball everybody is dug in in here. pelosi won't give him a dime for the wall. there is border security. and there are other ways to get border security other than a cement wall. and his version of the wall changes by the minute. he doesn't know what he is talking about. >> i wonder how the president's jargon, i mean his word choice, e...

Short time ago, i hope everyone, even the fake news media is having a great christmas, the country is doing very well, we are securing our borders, making great trade deals and bringing our troops back home, finally putting america first, merry christmas, hashtag m a ga. national security analyst morgan ortagus joins us in new york city and charles lane, opinion writer for the washington post, good evening and merry christmas, your thoughts on the battle at the border? >> interesting how this wall changes shape and length and name, sometimes called a fence, sometimes called a wall, sometimes c...

We are finally putting america first. merry christmas." with that let's bring in our panel. the columnist from bloomberg opinion. security analysis, joins us up the road. charles lane, the opinion writer from "the washington post." merry christmas. your thoughts on the battle of thetm border? >> the president -- interesting how this wall changes shape and length and name. s it is sometimes called a fence, sometimes called a wall, sometimes called money for border security. i was interested to hear him eay, we don't need the wall, just the 500 miles that aren't mountainous. i think we are seein...