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Things? >> i think it's all about optics. that's the big focus here for the democrat party. we all know that there are democrats in the past have said that they want some type of barrier, some type of infrastructure. they want some type of technology. but that whole notion of building a wall is something that we are just completely against. i think the language has to change. he is from my home state of maryland. even if you look at our governor, he's republican. even the true blue states, so to speak. even language that he uses make it seem like a lot of his constituents -- >> harris: what or...

Consequences. do you believe -- and i think you were putting on twitter that three died in five days last week, do you believe the wall could even save lives? >> absolutely. when we do not have the wall infrastructure, the technology that accompanies it, it again raises the number of deaths in a given area. we've seen the dynamic. we've seen it in tucson, arizona. with we've seen it in sand a yea go. and now we -- san diego. and now we see it down near south texas. griff: chief, we've got to lee it there. i'm sorry, we're out of time. congratulations again as commander of the joint it is a thi...