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People can't connect to people at the border because they're faceless. when you have a celebrated person, people start to feel that they can connect with him that they can feel his plight and feel his children. if that connection can get attention to the issue and connect other people, again, that sort of helps the system all around. interesting perspective. your first time on the beat. hope you come back. thank you both. as always you can catch on the weekends at 5 p.m. eastern. up ahead a big legal problem for trump with the border wall is next. p wider wall is next (burke) parking splat...

In someways it would be a test of just how pathetic he is because he talks about no education. am i right, that they don't have any leverage in another shutdown, right? >> there is no more leverage here the country set the benchmark for toleration here and i think that the idea of the next three weeks that we wind up with another shutdown at the end of the period is not good for anyone the democrats are in the front seat because the one thing trump wants he's not going to get. trump's problem is he's getting no help from his guys and getting the one thing he wants he's going to have to come ar...

Has captured. >> jobs report. >> what do you think about elizabeth warren's campaign? >> if you really want to find >> as we look at what's going on in china, it's clear that the out how effective a wall is, 9 9 economy begins its slow there for the second half and what i believe to be the case is for99%effect is tif. the trade tensions between the united states and china put >99%effective. additional pressure on their economy. pete: so it did! a shocking poll on everyday let's bring in maria bartiromo host of sunday morning futures americans who actually say they and back from vacation. wan...

That his base makes about him, he wants -- >> but that's my point. it's not the ultimate judgment his base makes. it's the ultimate judgment we're seeing rush limbaugh and laura ingraham and right wing media make about him. >> it's his calculation that's the ultimate thing. there's one thing they'll hold him to. that's the one thing they'll hold him to. and those senators in states where he has plus 50% rating would never vote to -- >> i agree with rick. his base will forgive lots of lies and promises not being kept but the wall is -- >> i don't agree. >> i don't agree. if you talk to people. ...

Yes. >> will you accept anything less than 2.5. >> we're asking for 5.6. somebody said 2.5. this is national security we're talking about. just like we're talk about military, syria or afghanistan or all these different places. we spend in afghanistan, more in one month than what we're talking about for the wall. think of that. that's another way. it's ridiculous. i have to tell you, the house was very impressive. they stepped up and went in and they approved. i'm not holding nancy to this but she said you'll never get the republicans stroet for it. i never saw anything so