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There still trying to figure this out. the tension for president trump is always going to be, the thing that excites his base turns off the rest of the country tired of this polarization and this wall issue, immigration issue has become so polarized in the last month of and a half since the shutdown. president trump has to deal with candidates like beta o'rourke and others, who will challenge him on the wall but will challenge him on tone and challenge him on a broader message about economic opportunity. if he can't figure out how to get that economic message or sorry types of messages to brea...

Voters. the issue is how many straws are drawing from each pool and which candidates w candidates can consolidate their lanes faster is important deciding this race. there is a significant block of older voters and moderate voters. >> two points i want to make. counter intuitively, everyone says the democratic party is getting much much younger. that's not really the case, is it? >> no. 60% are over 45 in 2016. that's true across every group, white women, black men -- it still tilts older. millennials are growing as a share and may be larger in 2020, overall, there are a lot of older voters an...

Predicting what he will do is impossible. >> it's less mileage for a border barrier he could have received last spring and less money than they would give him in december. the president esdoes hadoes hav option to stand up to sean hannity. he doesn't have to do what he says and says we can keep paying the 800,000 workers. >> stop your crazy talk. >> it is very interesting to watch this going forward. we are literally glued to our computers this morning waiting to see if the president tweets. i was shocked the president told the crowd last night where you are in el paso on the stage, i could ha...

O'rourke said to jeff he will be making a decision by the end of the month. what did you see here? >> i saw a campaign by metaphor. that's what 2020 is going to be a lot about. because this issue has not been solved, comprehensive issue to solve the border and dreamers and because government has not been able to solve this problem in a comprehensive way since the last best chance when president bush had good ideas about it. this is a campaign issues out there and the wall is the most powerful metaphor. >> i saw a presidential candidate running for election, noticed the crowd size for beta o'ro...

The president's wall issue is a base issue on the right. they're going to have to make a case of who bears more of the blame for shippiutting the government down. but i i do think democrats get more than they had before after several weeks, especially with the issue of knowing the democrats have supported a wall in the past or border fencing in the past. it's all about how it gets defined. how failure gets defined. >> it is also interesting, kirsten, as we're watching this, you are seeing democrats around the country react in different ways. and the california governor gavin newsom is pulling ...