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Doing that. steve jobs did that. he didn t take a dime from the federal government. gregg: he reinvestsed his money. yes. the other thing he he dispensed almost no lobbying money compared to most companies. the word is, you can really succeed without the federal government. he sold to the federal government as a market. but he didn t take any money from it. so you are absolutely right. gregg: isn t itç ironic protesters on wall street decrying capitalism the other night they paid tribute to steve jobs the quintessential lesson in capitalism. there s a lot of irony there. gregg: profits are not evil, profits empower people. thanks brenda. heather: remember the story we talked about it yesterday. new details about the members ....