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Alone. last year total apprehensions for the month of november, nearly 52,000. i guess that tells you that wall workings. would you say that that wall in nancy pelosi's state is working? >> there are places that it is appropriate -- maria: how about that specific wall in tijuana and san diego? >> because i haven't visited, i'm not going to say for sure, but i'm not going to say it should come down either. i'm -- one thing i've learned about when you are seasoned, don't comment when you don't have all the facts and don't know if you're walking into something -- but i'll tell you what, the next ...

Basically, just become citizens in the u.s.? not legally, obviously, but just assimilate into the population? would that happen? >> first of all, nobody is saying we don't need border security. maria: no, no, congresswoman, i'm specifically asking you about the border in nancy pelosi's state. >> they're not even filling all the positions to keep that border safe finish. maria: should that wall be torn down? >> no, i don't, i haven't been to visit the site. i don't know all the specifics of it -- maria: well, let me give you some specifics. let me give you -- >> all right, go ahead. maria: bord...