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Broadcast arizona's republican attorney general discussing voter fraud claims. >> horse [ bleep ]. that's what it is. most of it's horse [ bleep ]. and i've been trying to scrape it off my shoes for the last year. >> brnvich supported trump, who lled him with advice. >> he goes, all you've got to do is say the election's fraudulent and you will be a superstar. you'll be the most popular guy in america. and i told him. i said, mr. president, iidt become attorney general to be a star. i brought my star with me. and i don't need anybody, whether it's the former president or any other person, vali...

>> nothing his attorneys do surprises me. basically it's obvious that he's guilty. everybody knows that he's guilty and i know it's flippant to say that, but it's true, and now they are just looking for some way to save his life, so we have to step back and ask ourselves what is their motivation? their motivation obviously is to prep the battlefield to make this legal -- legal battlefield to make him appear a victim to make it appear like he's more human and to set the grounds for some kind of plea agreement that doesn't involve the death penalty. >> martha: so you interrogated him. you water ...